Episode Transcript
[00:00:14] Speaker A: What's up, you guys? Michael, straight from the propper form podcast. It's been a while since you've seen us. We're super excited to be back here. Starting season number two, episode number twelve with the one and only Doctor Steven Neuhart. Thanks for being here, man. How you doing?
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Sure, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: I appreciate it.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: It's been a pleasure, by the way, knowing you for the period of time that I have.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. And I'm excited to dive deeper into that. We've really got to know each other through an amazing synergy. Business friend, colleague, I would call him a close friend. Wise man that I even look up to as a father. Business owner, Doctor Daniel Melville out in South Lake. We had, I guess a late lunch, early lunch, late brunch out there. Doctor Melville kind of just helped put us together over a three way. And then since then, man, just really kicked it off. I'm really appreciative for that connection. We're gonna kind of start to dive into who you are, what makes you tick, where you are now in the chapter and seasons of life, where you've been and like you shared, man. Like, I still think we're definitely getting to know each other. We're getting to continue to encourage one another and see each other on our journeys and. Yeah, so I had the pleasure of being on your talk show. It's on LinkedIn now, so you guys can go find that on the vigor active. Is it. Is that the page? You guys have your own page or was that just on your personal?
[00:01:39] Speaker B: That's on my personal. We don't have a LinkedIn page yet. I think it goes on our website. So I think somewhere on our website you could find it. But it's just vigor active health chats on YouTube. Easy to find. I think it's on. I don't even know where they put it. They put it in a bunch of places. I think it's on Spotify, maybe. Apple. Apple?
[00:01:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:59] Speaker B: Is it Apple podcast? Apple podcast? They probably put it there. So it's in a couple places.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Yep. It looks really great. It's very, very professionally well done. And I love it because it's about 15 minutes long with each guest, each episode. So it's not a wider range. And others podcasts out there that are hours long. We try to stick between kind of the 40 to 60 minutes range, but it's a lot to unpack within 15 minutes. But also kind of it's a. It's a nice refreshment of kind of learning about some of the guests you have on and I appreciative to be one of them. So now I get to have you and host you here on mine for the start of season two. So guys, we're going to get into it here. Some things that describe Doctor Newhart and we're going to go through them here to serve others. Gym owner, PhD, college professor and family man, if you could. If we start from the top there, what is it that brought to mind here to serve others?
[00:02:57] Speaker B: That's just what I do, as I think a lot of us do. It's like, well, how can I help you? You know, I mean, that's what's always been in my head. I think it started that there early on in college and then finding kinesiology was fun because I realized, oh, okay, there's a science behind exercise. And I had known it made me feel good.
So I knew that if I went this route, I could use it to apply it and help other people just to feel good all the time, you know, because they, they seem to not, or a lot of people seem to not feel as good as I did because. But I was in the gym all the time exercising. So that's just the route that I chose. I think there's so many routes where people that have a heart to help others serve within. You know, I hear Daniel say the same thing constantly. He's in a health space, not necessarily fitness, but he's helping people with their health from a scientific take your blood standpoint where I can see your entire genetic makeup and I can apply these recommendations for you. He's found his there minds and fitness. But anybody that needs my help, really with anything, I love it when it's something else.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:19] Speaker B: Hey, will you help me move into my new apartment? Yes, that'd be great.
This would be a great way to help somebody and I'll do it because it's something different from what I do every day. But anything, right?
[00:04:29] Speaker A: Anything that people would you say that maybe kind of your path and your calling in regards to into the fitness space and maybe generically for most people is you found something that really helped serve and assist yourself. So then that was kind of came out in a passion into the fitness space, probably, yeah.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: You know, but when you get to play sports, everybody doesn't. So when you get to play sports and do that, you get that deep understanding from exercising regularly or it's like, well, we work out with the team, right. When you're young and then you're not working out any other time. And you notice when we go back for team workouts, oh, man, I feel really good when I do that. So you're realizing, okay, something to that and then the science behind it. Oh, here's why. Here's what it does to your serotonin levels. You know, here's what it does to your blood flow. Here's what it does to your brain connectivity, stuff like that. So, yeah, it's definitely something that we care about for ourselves that we then take on to others.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: You know? So, yeah, the answer is probably yes to that, definitely.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: Well, if we just kind of poured into you being a gym owner, could you kind of go back a little bit into that on how you served others through the kind of the fitness space when you started figure active, where you guys are currently located, and then kind of flow that into some of your other entrepreneurial adventures on.
Do you think you would be doing some of the other things you're doing now when you. If you could go back and talk to Newhart ten years ago, 15 years ago, and kind of how all of that has come to life?
[00:06:04] Speaker B: I am very much a person that believes that every single little thing that happens is for a reason. So everything that has happened, and I. And I will end my days one day knowing that I did everything exactly how it was supposed to go. Right. So I'm not usually one to look back and go, oh, should have done that differently. So, I think it all was meant to be exactly how it happened.
And, you know, just the decisions we make, even you just. There was. That's how it happens. Right. But the gym thing, I mean, a deeper backstory of everything that occurred, you know, as I was talking about kinesiology, first year of second year college, actually, I switched from business. I was a business major, and.
Which maybe that's an indicator of. I wanted to have a business one day, right, but didn't stay in business and went through the kinesiology program. At the end of my senior year, I got an internship through a buddy, right. That was in Mansfield, Texas.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Mansfield, man, it was in a good area, too, but it was before LA's and 24s were really big, and then in LA was coming into that area, so that essentially put that place out of business, which had happens.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Dang, you know how that goes. But it got a lot of experience there, and I got experience being a 1099 because they were all independent contractors at that gym. So how to charge on my own and pay my own taxes and stuff like that. So that was a little look into that. I didn't really like doing that. So then I wanted to find a place that didn't do that, but went to get a master's degree after that in exercise physiology. In between my semesters there, I went to La Fitness to see what LA Fitness was all about. Trained there for a little. For four months or something like that. And it was just what the model wasn't what I wanted, what I wasn't looking for. It's 30 minutes. It was only 30 minutes sessions. I needed an hour. We know why you need an hour. You know why you need an hour? I can do a 30 minutes session, but that's here and there. Our sessions are what you do if you care about, you know, the person and helping them and all that. So did La fitness finish the degree? The master's degree. And then right after I graduate with my master's, I went to Larry North Fitness, which is vigor, you know? I mean, I don't know if I told you that.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah, you did.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: Larry Norris was a big name, and I knew Larry very well, and even the men that he built that company with, great guys, taught me a ton.
So trained for him, became the director of personal training for their company. Right. And that led into, actually the PhD thing. And to get the PhD, I had to actually stop training. So I was going to stop training and leave Larry north, but that was the opportunity that he saw to say, well, let me try to sell it to him, and that maybe that'll, you know, pull him back into it enough to where he'll keep it operational.
[00:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: So he made that offer, and. And then I just said, okay, I'm one of those guys, too. Like, I usually don't say no to anything.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:17] Speaker B: I don't think it's ever led me in a bad direction.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: I was just gonna ask, is that. Have you.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: Not really.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: Maybe not led you in a bad direction, but has that led you to having a plate that's almost overfilled or are you also good at. You can stop delegating, stopping, saying no.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah. You can stop the things that aren't going anywhere and you have to.
But no, it just kind of. Everything I'd say yes to, though, it has. It's within this. It's within the kinesiology helping people world.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: So I can manage it all because it's all somewhat the same. It's in different areas. They all sometimes come together.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: You know, like. Like Uta. We've had five really good trainers from UTA since I've been a professor and owned the gym that have come to us and one of them's there now. You know, he's still doing very well.
One girl went to be a firefighter or you never know what trainers jump out for. Yeah.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: So to share a little bit more on that, it's just another way that our relationships continue to grow is that Doctor Newhart has asked me to come in to speak and going back to kind of the servante others and seeing kind of these other cool opportunities of branches is like, man, I've got the opportunity. I want to continue to learn and get more comfortable speaking, speaking in groups and also share my passion with younger people that I can mentor and pour into and so I can share with them open and honestly my journey of my failures and successes. But then also the possible return is that I've actually got a Guyenne next week coming to shadow with me and another buddy, one of the other guys as well. I think his name is Alex.
He's still looking at his calendar and trying to figure out what's going to work out. So an opportunity to have some young guys shadow me here at luxury lifestyle training or lux life gym design and see if they can end up being a great candidate to join the team. And so it's been a great cool piece and opportunity and then each time I leave like, hey, maybe I can change this and share this differently or add more light in this area that some of the class seem more intrigued by. And I'm even. We got Colin College right here in McKinney. I'm like, man, I need to maybe reach out to Colin College and offers my time to speak to some of those similar tracks in regards to degrees and see if there's opportunity there to be like, hey, I'm literally just on the other side, 380. I'm on Virginia.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: They're right in your backyard.
[00:11:42] Speaker A: Literally right here in my backyard.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: Those kids from Uta will be driving. I mean, you never know. They may say, oh, yeah, this is what I want to do and this is where I want to be. I'm going to move out here after school.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: But yeah, so going back to you getting your PhD, not owning vigor active.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: That was, that was the hardest time. Yeah, it was hard. Cause like, I had focused my brain, okay, I'm gonna go full time school and then it's like, oh, wait, let's buy a gym.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah. So at that time you obviously you got, you're married, you've got the kiddos. Your wife was working.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: We had just had our son Nolan at that moment.
So doing that and this and this. But that's when people ask me, what is it? What do you need to do to be a good business owner, entrepreneur, or whatever? The first thing I go back to is a health regimen. It's the first thing. If you cannot conquer that, you probably won't make it. Cause you have to have some sort of health regimen, you know? Cause you gotta have the energy to do all these things. You have to have the patience. And if people aren't exercising, they usually don't have that. They don't have any patience. They boom, snap, you know, and yell at employees or whatever it is they're gonna do at that bad moment. And instead of being calm and working through it. So it's like always number one for me, I say, you have to have this, or things may not go the way you want them to go, but all that at the same time was happening and it was fine. I mean, you know, did all my research, kept the gym going. I remember a couple classes I was in. I was a little preoccupied because there was, like, emails from the business coming through. When it was first getting going, it was hectic everywhere, so it was stuff coming through all the time. And I'd have to, like, sort of peek at it and answer questions, so. Yeah, but got out of there. Did all right.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Kids are fine, you know.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: So the gym. The gym's good. And it was. To thank Larry. It was an operating entity.
It was going in a direction of not being as strong. So I do believe that the changes we made made it stronger again. But it had already been operational for 20 years.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: Yeah. It's rather refreshing piece. That's perspective.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And at a time that he probably didn't want to mess with it anyways.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: So brought it back. Good transition. Got the, got it. Got a more comfortable experience at learning business, especially fitness business, instead of something that was going to be really, really hard, start from the ground up, zero members, all this kind of business, which I think I'm prepared now to take on a venture like that. And we're working on one. But. But this, uh, that was a good way to just kind of put both feet in at once. But it wasn't a super attack. It was okay. And.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And how many years running now have you guys?
[00:14:44] Speaker B: It's seven.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's seven years operational. It's doing fine. I mean, I'm always looking for new ways to change things around your staff, you know, so it's, you know, it's constant but it's going good. It's good. It's good and it's fun.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So I guess more a question I have just thinking through kind of logistics and operations, how many members?
I mean, you guys have monthly memberships, you guys do personal training, you guys do some classes.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah, we hold. Since our membership is a little higher, we don't.
We could flood it if we wanted to, but we still keep it in sort of an exclusive place of about 800 members. And so we hang on to 800 higher membership rate, and we do a lot of personal training. You know, just divulge numbers, our budgets, which I told this to somebody once that had a smaller gym, and they looked at me like this. I'm like, well, it's just what it is. But we're around 40, 45,000 a month is what we're looking for in personal training revenue from our team. And that's always kind of what it's done.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: That's just personal training revenue.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: That's just training.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: That's awesome.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: That's just training. So then you have the whole other membership side.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Yeah, of course.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: That's helpful. But, you know, so it's good. It's a good business.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: And then when did you start teaching? Have you enjoyed it? Have you. I mean, again, serving others, serving a younger demographic and group, helping guide them through their degree process. And I felt, I mean, I just appreciate your humbleness and your, you know, sobriety and just, you know, growing our relationship on where you've gone from a to b, I can tend to be a little bit more sporadic, so I've appreciated some of that sobriety. I felt like you've offered me in a lot of our conversations, but I feel like you can probably also add a lot of that, um, to the classes and the younger kiddos that are so excited and want to do all these things, and you're not buzz killing them, but you are adding a lot of value.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I. It's probably one of my biggest passions. That's probably why I've done it so long.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, geez, what is that now, 14 years?
[00:16:49] Speaker A: 2010, man.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: So I love it, and I don't really want to stop it. And that's why I was telling you earlier, we are working right now on a formal strength and conditioning track.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: So the student would say I'm. That is what my degree will be. I mean, that's what you asked the question. I think it'll be kinesiology with a focus in strength and conditioning. You know, I don't know if you'd graduate with a degree in strength and conditioning. It's a little, say, kinesiology strength conditioning or something like that, but that it's all. I mean, I told the department this, if we have all this social media stuff now and all these influencers, 400,000 is the last time I looked. 400,000 influencers. People aren't really seeking the book knowledge in the schools. You know, they actually almost come in, and when I'm teaching, sometimes they probably heard 85% of it from their YouTube influencers or whatever. What they need is hands on, and what they want is hands on. So we're trying to implement a lot of that where they will actually even be working on improving their strength, their body, throughout their four year program. So they get the experience of it and the book knowledge, and then they'll be a strength and conditioning professional when they graduate.
So we're trying to change what we have and really make it a very extensive program.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: I definitely feel like there's a gap, and even wise, I've got two boys. As they get older, I'm kind of curious and interested in them to get into some sort of trade school or laboring. And maybe the root of that is how can they get hands on opportunity to see if they like or dislike some sort of trade or just role or, you know, job position rather than thinking and maybe gaining all this head knowledge from the stuff we're watching or seeing online and then actually jumping into it and seeing that it's a completely different animal.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And I guess that's what we're trying to. Trying to do. I was speaking, I had breakfast with our head strength coach today. She's not in the kinesiology department. She's in athletics. You know, she actually does the training with our baseball, basketball, track, golf, athletes. And she was like, oh, this has to happen. You know, we want this here. But as far as the hands on stuff, she wants to help with that intern. You know, you look at the word internship.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: But she also says, you know where the internships really lie. I know all the high school strength coaches, Lamar, Arlington, Martin Ral, the ones around us, and send our, our strength and conditioning students that need internships off to those high schools.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause you make some sort of internship process curriculum boxes that they have to check hours wise, maybe even having some sort of intern coordinator or like, satellite director at these schools, high schools or something where they're not spending a ton of their time, but they at least know the end goal of what the internship looks like. So even when I did my internship from Texas A and M, it was, I think it was 400 hours, eight or twelve weeks. And then, like, I had my, the director at Michael Johnson performance, and I had to get him to sign off on stuff that I was here and I did all this stuff. And then I adopted a lot of that, man. I forget a lot of it, but I adopted a lot of those things when I had a couple interns at the construction company that I worked at. Just one guy, actually, that ended up taking over that role. But it helps guide and give vision to where it's, where it's going, where you want it to conclude. Um, yeah, that's cool, man. I would love to pivot shift just a little bit, not too much. Um, but as you continue to branch out into how you're serving and caring for others, something that you guys, you have got into is a little bit more into the medical space. Could you share?
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: That looks like. And what some of your research is looking like.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: And I have, I have continued. You could ask my dad. Number one, asked my dad when I was 18, he said, what do you want to do? When I was going to college, he said, I want to help people. That's all I said. I didn't know, just kind of like what we were talking about in the beginning, but I said, I want to help people. And then I told him at the time, I don't know why I had this. I have this different kind of heart for helping people.
I feel for those that, like, when I see, when I hear and talk to people with chronic disease, it's not fun and they don't know how to get out of it, you know what I mean? The reason why I stepped into all this was to attempt to make an impact there, which is probably after all these years, now there's the medical company, because that's where those people actually are. You could open a gym and say, oh, you got a disease, come here. I don't think we'd have that good of a. It just, it still wouldn't have work properly, but they feel comfortable going to their doctor's office. So that's when we started a medical service provider company, right? So we put together all of our services and they had to fall underneath CPT codes that the doctor could make money to give.
And the start of that idea, I mean, it had a big piece of the PhD in it because I knew I could do research as I was going through my PhD. And that's why I researched whole body vibration platforms? Yeah, because I wanted the research backing behind it before I ever asked a doctor to allow me to give this to their patient. You know, this modality.
So. And you've. Did, you saw ours, right? I mean, they're everywhere though. Like they're all over the place. There's all kinds of different ones and.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: They share a light on the, the whole body of vibration. Could you share a little bit more in depth on what it is, what it does?
[00:22:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean there, there's a, it's a platform that's probably this big. It's on the ground. Of course. I'm just like, they weigh like 50 pounds, you know, so they sit about this far off the ground. So you have to step up onto it and then it oscillates, right? Yeah. It moves about a fulcrum and it goes at about 10 hz. So it's fast. So as it's moving under you, it's delivering that rapidly up into your limbs and your muscle spindle is caused to activate, which activates the muscles. So the muscle is doing an activation many times per minute depending on how high you have it. And so it causes the muscle to activate hard and fast and it'll stimulate your nervous system. It'll break down muscle tissue just like we do when we lift.
Because flexibility is a factor of your neural system. It gives flexibility and it improves balance. That one of the other side effects we found was that it decreased everyone's blood pressure to a normal range where, you know, one of my guys had 153 over like 90. Was this dangerous? You know, that's heart attack levels. His was normal and he only did it one time a week for eight weeks, for 30 minutes. That stimulus, whatever it's doing, is giving you better. It's either clearing your arteries or it's giving you better muscular control of your arteries so you have better local circulation control.
But that was neat to find. So it has all these benefits that are now scientifically proven after doing this on 90 different people. Right. And three studies being published. So that's that.
And there's a lot of different kinds out there. I'm not gonna.
I did the research on the brain we use because I know, I wanted to know what that specific one would do because they're all different. Like it's, it's, it comes down to amplitude and frequency. Frequency being the hertz, amplitude being how far is this platform, you know, doing this? It's the distance, right? So like power plates at like 4. We chose one that went at 15 mm. So it's much more displacement.
We did it for a reason, that we thought it would be more beneficial. But anyway, so I know what ours does. I can't speak to any of the others because you can get one for probably $300 on, online or on tv or whatever.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: I don't know what. I don't know what it'll do.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah, but people aren't gonna know the depths of the hertz and the frequencies and all the pros or cons that it adds or doesn't add to them.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: It's true. And it's just. It's a science and a yemenite. It's an emerging science. It's an evolving, ever emerging science.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: So I don't know, but, I mean, it feels so good. I will say that I love standing on them. I think they feel, it feels great.
I do a lot of exercise, so I used it a bunch and sort of tested myself on a few different things. I didn't change too much because I do all this other stuff, you know, like, it's hard to get more neural control than having 300 pounds on your back and squatting with it. You know, it's like, that's a lot of neural control. If this vibration platform was able to do that, that'd be interesting. But, so. But for a sedentary body, it does great things.
So we deliver that.
That's nothing that's different. It's something that medical patients can use because they're kind of deconditioned. But the main crux of our program was to start linking body dysfunction with brain. I'm just say brain dysfunction. We've been able to take eegs since 1962. And an EEG is where you put contact points on the scalp, and it'll read the frequency and the amplitude. So each type of wave gets monitored through the software that we use. Okay. Certain waveforms are linked with certain things that a person does. Like, for example, a delta wave is the slowest wave that your brain can produce. It shows up when you're asleep.
It's almost responsible for putting you to sleep. When you lay down at night, your oscillation pattern of your brain is going to start to slow. It's going to get long and low. Right?
So if I take a scan on somebody while they're awake and I see a bunch of that, I have to. I have to raise an eyebrow. Why? So the software will tell you there's an abundance of delta waves, right? That's the wave. And when someone's awake and there's abundance of delta waves, it can tell you that they may experience depression or memory loss or dementia or all these other things. Right.
So we're able to do these scans and link them to those kinds of diseases and talk to patients about what's going on in their brain. That's when we will recommend the vibration. Or we also use neuro feedback, which neurofeedback is meant to fix your brain's coherence patterns. The EEG shows us coherence patterns, so it'll outline all the broadman areas of your brain, and the software will tell you if the waveforms that are happening at all those areas are in sync with each other or are they out of sync? And if they're out of sync, that means that we have bad coherence. Right. And then if you see bad coherence just in this area up here, you can look into its functions and tell the patient, well, those functions may be hindered because those areas are not aligning with each other. Truth be told, when you tell them that, they're like, I have that. I mean, like, 99% of the time, I'd say, this is what you may experience.
They go, I. You know, like, how many people have gone to me, I do feel depression. I don't tell anybody about it. And I've told a couple people, but they're like, no, you don't. And I say, well, it's showing here, so I would not be confused if you said you felt that way. And it almost helps them to get, like, some people don't want to talk about it. Some people don't want to come to terms with it, you know, the fact that that's happening. But then you can start doing something about it once you have. So it's almost. They almost come out of their shell real quick. And, yes, I want to talk about that because this has been bugging me. And finally, you have some measure that I can. Yeah, that kind of is relating to me.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: And they could implement certain things, or if needed, medications or, you know, fitness regimens, meditation, breath work, and then come back and do another scan.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We do progress. We give them the vibration and neural feedback, usually both, because they usually just both are very powerful together. And then we rescan them, you know, and this system works well for a doctor because all of it reimburses for the doctor. And we charge a service fee. Right? We did a service for them.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:08] Speaker B: They have their results. The patient has their results. We charge a service fee. So it's a good business model. It works. It's taken me a while to find a really strong doctor partner. And we're not really trying to grow that. It's just like, let's work with her and develop this whole system together.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: Now, is there an opposite of delta?
[00:30:28] Speaker B: Well, your brain can produce five. It's delta, then theta, then alpha beta and high beta. Okay, so theta waves, you would imagine them to move like that. And a theta wave is a little higher than delta wave, but it's also responsible for sort of putting you to sleep. If you're daydreaming, though, people, that the word disassociation is a word, I'm here, but I'm pretending I'm somewhere else, right? I. Daydreaming, disassociation, I'm outside my body. I'm. You know what I mean?
That wave gets. That wave shows up when people are imagining now, they say that it's high in people that have a good imagination. But if it's super duper high, then right at that moment in time, you're somewhere else, you know? So there's that one. Alpha is the one. Like, if you're focused and you're attentive and all that kind of stuff. Alpha's alpha goes up slightly. If it's super high, it could be anxiety. So. But there's a way to know if this something's a little high or if it's really high because it shows it on the, on the paper, because that's.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: Also some, like, the alpha brain, uh, supplements, they try to feed into that. Correct.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: And we use that word all over the place. You know, I hope it may have stemmed from that. That guy's an alpha. You know what I mean? Usually the alpha is the dominant, the focused, the leader, the. Right. So that's where I think that you can have crossover. And if you're playing a sport or something, your brain's going right. It's like firing off super quick.
[00:31:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: You have to move really fast. So that's beta and high beta. And. But if, but if someone's sitting in a chair and calm and it's quiet and they're producing a lot of that, that's where they have debilitating anxiety, because it's firing off for no reason. So you can see a lot of stuff and talk to people about it through doing an even interesting.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: I kind of want to do one.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: You can? Yeah, dude. I mean, you just, you go by the medical practice, too, just so you come in and our technician can do it on you.
[00:32:32] Speaker A: Have you guys had conversations about more locations or, you know, continued reach? Outreach.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: I am always doing it. But, you know, at some point in this talk, I was going to get here because I know you're a faith based Mandeh.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: And I, everything now, it goes there. Like, I just have to kind of wait and be patient. I've pushed that thing. I've tried to push that company so hard. And it not going anywhere was like, you gotta, gotta start listening. But then you find, then I easily find the right partner. Right? And I think if it's gonna grow, it's gonna grow. It's supposed to grow. If it's not, it's nothing, right? So like the gym, for example, Larry goes, you have one month to raise 300 grand. You know what I mean? That's all you bet this? And I'm like, okay, if that was not supposed to happen, I would not have been successful at all. But I made probably the second call I made, somebody's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm interested. So that led me to continue pushing. But I have him over here saying, yeah, I'm interested. To find that kind of money in a short period of time that, you know, is usually unheard of, but it was meant to be. So now I know the rest of my life I'll live that way. I'm not gonna lose vision of my, or lose sight of my vision, what I want to do. But I think it's, once you accept that what's supposed to happen is supposed to happen and what's not supposed to happen is not supposed to happen, you can start moving in the directions that run smoothly. Yeah, but that one, to answer your question, it didn't feel like it was supposed to, at least not right now.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: And it may be because. So the doctor I work with, she's a scientist. I mean, she's a, she's a do, but she's a scientist. She loves the science behind it all and a genius. And we daily are developing more and more and more logic behind LinkedIn, between everything, everything we do, everything we see in the scans. So we're developing almost this.
The program is gaining all this strength.
[00:34:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: So maybe it's just supposed to stay there with her for a little while. So we can just keep developing it.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: Obtaining research and, you know, the reps with all the different pieces and people that are coming in. And I'm guessing you guys are able, with a, with confidentiality or based off of being a medical practice, to keep that all of the scans and stuff you're doing with each client to continue to build your arsenal of research and scientific data and all of that. Right?
[00:35:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
I have my faculty mentor at UTA. We've already written up a formal study to do at that clinic that'll be ran through the UTA's IRB.
So then we can actually need to do it. I keep poking her. She's. She's in a little bit of a transition over there at the school, so I'm like, I poke her regularly, but I wrote it up, and she's. She'll make changes to it that will get approved by the IRB. Because if you've ever tried to do a formal research study and run it through what they call an institutional review board.
Sounds intense, looking at months, man.
You write it all up and they're like, no, no, no. And then you gotta redo it and write it back in. It was just all in the. In the interest of protecting subjects are supposed to be the reason behind them.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: But nothing we do hurts people. I mean. Yeah. Anyway, so we'll do formal research.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: So. Intriguing. Cool. Well, I'm excited to just continue to see work chosen. I definitely would love to test it and even just try it out myself. That'd be really cool. I'm sure my wife would probably make some strong guesses on what mine might be and could add some factual data of what it actually is.
[00:36:40] Speaker B: I scan myself all the time. You know, I have. I probably have six since we've been doing this, because we've been doing this for five, six years.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:36:49] Speaker B: So I kind of scan myself every year.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: But all that stuff, it encourages us to. It's another health measure.
[00:36:55] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[00:36:56] Speaker B: So if your brain does not look perfect, you might say, all right, let's stop doing the. Whatever, you know, that I'm doing and clean everything up, and then the brain changes and everybody's happy.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: I feel like. I mean, obviously, like, it intrigues me more. Cause I was just having conversations today with people about gut health, blood work, fitness regiments, of course. And, you know, the 80 20, a lot of. 20% of the gym, 80% outside of nutrition and sleep and hydration. But I don't feel like brain function is a big part of that conversation yet.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not.
[00:37:30] Speaker A: And so I could see how that could really continue to grow, could help allow people to open up to not being so confined or, you know, embarrassed to share, you know, the journey or things that they're going through or struggling with. With anxiety or depression. And that's really, really cool.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: You know, the book, the tipping point, like, so now we've done. I mean, within my company, and we've worked with other doctors before. We've probably done a thousand scans, but at least those thousand people, they now know what an EEg is and what it looks like. And so if somebody ever talked about it with them. Oh, yeah. See, so the more people that have it done, the less odd it'll be, the more normal it'll become. And if it's like. And then at one moment, when enough people have had it done, somebody at the newsroom hears about it, and they do a story on it, and then there you go. That was your tipping point, between everybody saying, I need to look at my brain, too, and then there you go. Falls over the other side, and everybody's doing it all of a sudden.
[00:38:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: So. And everything. I think everything reaches that point. It's just a matter of time.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: I think. So we'll just keep doing what we're doing.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah. We shared a little bit about it. And last one you had was family, man. Shared a little bit on your crew, your kiddos, the bride.
[00:38:54] Speaker B: Oh, man. Well, my wife works with me, and I've never had a better business partner than my wife. You know, even though it's true, we will. Will clash heads and get into it. She's a strong woman, so she can handle that.
She's not gonna ever say, I'm sorry for being too rough on you, but I might, you know? And she's just like, okay. I mean, you married me for a reason, but she's always there to help. She's very, very talented. She worked for south. The city of southlake in the city of burleson, four years of burleson, eight years at Southlake, to learning. She did everything. Like, she was a marketer, she was a salesperson. You know, she did all. So she had all that background, and now she can make a flyer in 2 seconds or whatever needs to be done, and they always look very professional, so she's got an eye for that.
She's learned the medical industry inside and out. Like, the billing and collecting side that I just don't care about. I don't care about it all. It's not. It's not fun, and she's learned that overnight, but it's just. She always been there.
These days, I do say to her, I'm like, you know, I'm getting to a point where you've gotten me to this place, and if this stuff is wearing you out. Cause it's tough. I mean, it's not necessarily her calling. Her calling was probably when she married me to be a good wife. You know what I mean? And now she's helped me, and I'm like, this probably your calling. So if it's starting to weigh you out, you can stop at any moment. You don't have to continue listening to me jump down the road, leapfrogging, trying to get one of these things to really, like, take off, you know, so. But she's always been there. Great mom, of course. Couldn't ask for a better mom. Kids love her, and we're a good family unit, so my kids are. My kids are good kids. My daughter's wild. Yeah, but you don't have a daughter.
And not all daughters are like my daughter. She will raise her voice and all this business. She's five. Yeah, but, I mean, at the end of the day, before bed, Grace kisses everybody and says good night to all of us. She makes a point to do that and has not missed a night. I'm laying with Nolan. She'll come in, find me.
And lately, it's funny because my son and water kiss her, kiss him on the cheek. I'm like, get over it. And he'll. And we're all trying to go to bed, and Ashley's waiting at the door, trying to get. You know, get her, get her. Get her out of there. And Nolan's like, no, no. And they'll do this for. And she won't stop until she gets the kiss.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Strong headed.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's important for her to give. It's because there's a thing. I mean, she's letting everybody know and feel comfortable before they go to bed, that there's love in the room and that she's there to love them. And, like. And I'm like, it's cool. So I never tell her, stop trying. I'm like, nolan, just let it be. You did this last night, and eventually you let her give you a kiss on the cheeks and just stop.
So eventually it happens, but that's cool. All good. Good kids, good family. We all try hard, and. Yeah, you know, that's just all you can do.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: Yep. Hey, Kevin. Well, hey. We're getting. Wrapping up too close here. The last thing I asked when I asked all my guests and think you've touched on a lot of it, but if you could share one or last two points to add value from who you are, where you've been, where you're going, any additional feedback or insight or wisdom you could add to our listeners.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Because, you know, I think a lot of us have been down this road, and much like just two points ago, five minutes ago. You gotta listen to what you're meant to do. And when you're trying to reach for something that you know darn well is not what you're not supposed to be doing, don't go there, you know, because it'll just be now, of course, everything happens for a reason and you gotta learn your lessons. That's one of those. But if I could, I could. I mean, maybe somebody will go, oh, I remember him saying that. And this definitely feels like what I should not be doing. So maybe I should stop this and go the path that I'm supposed to be cautious of. Outside influence, that's trying to lead you, not down your path that you want to go down. Right? That's. I mean, so it's just listening and some people meditate for that. I've never actually learned how. I think when I exercise, I meditate or something because that's when I get all my ideas, my focus. But listen, you know, like, listen to the. Listen to what you're supposed to be doing.
[00:43:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: Cause if you don't, who knows where you end up, you know, we all have a purpose. It doesn't have to be something huge for you to be a successful person in life. We're getting to that point where it's like everybody thinks you have to do something huge to be successful in life. And it's not that way. You forget the little influences you can make on somebody's life, yourself in just an hour's time with you and that person one on one like you do most days.
And they forget that. They lose sight of that because the person that started lifetime fitness is online and you can hear him talk and it's like, wow, that's what I'm supposed to do.
You know, that may be what he was supposed to do, but that may not be what your purpose is.
Just be satisfied, right? Be satisfied with what we get accomplished.
[00:44:33] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:44:34] Speaker B: Maybe those things.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, man, I appreciate you coming over here to McKinney from Fort Worth and hanging out with us on the proper form podcast, helping us kick off season two, episode number twelve. And I look forward to keep coming out to UTa, speaking to the classes and growing our friendship. But thanks for joining us, guys. Check it out. We find us on the Apple podcast, Spotify and YouTube. We'll see you guys in episode 13.
